Granted, this panel also depicts the fact that Terezi uses a cane to walk around, which is realistichowever, we rarely ever it in regular interactions with her. That'd apply if the author was using it in dialogue for a particular reason, to say something specific about the characters, and not just because it was in the author's own regular vocabulary. Yes, Vriska did that. He who is without sin may cast the first stone. Ever heard of that? The entire story was one long, continuous block that Ive long since forgotten, spiraling through whatever settings kids would love to live in: outer space, ancient Egypt, the woods, the African Savannah, the world of Pokemon, magic, whatever. Asaresult, the narrative remains incomplete and unstable, and the relevance of key events is questioned all together. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. At the end of Candy, Calliope declares that Dirk must be stopped because unlike her, he introduces bias to the narrative. The language used might seem lamentable to a young person today, but much of Homestuck is a product of its time. Oh, and all troll sex is incest by human standards. Dogfighting is a type of blood sport in which dogs are forced to fight one another for the entertainment and/or profit of spectators. Who the fuck writes in second person? You know where else that happens? After the epilogues to the story released in April 2019, the story stands at just over 1 million words. The lesson here is that an abuse victim needed to learn to take life into their own hands sooner. Homestuck has three characters with definite disabilitiesTavros, Terezi, and Solluxthough for the purposes of this article, I will focus on Tavros and Terezi as, ever since Sollux has become blind, we simply have not had much screen time with him to merit analysis at this point. Where does this leave a generation that grew up online, many of whom were devout Homestuck readers? WebHomestuck tends to congregate in large groups that can cause problems at conventions. I'm part of the tumblr community and several others. Maybe it would help if I knew what "AAVE" is, though. ya. Besides, I covered my opinions on incest above. Moreover, it occurs over and over again, too. Webi do think there is a lot to say on why homestucks fanbase is (to put it bluntly) so transgender in such a specific and interesting way. In this passage, the narrator (or author, Andrew Hussie) describes Tavross experiences in the game. true wait, what? WebThe plot of Homestuck is infamously convoluted but boils down to: four kids who know each other online play a video game together, inadvertently causing the apocalypse. How the hell do people extrapolate that? I perhaps havent heard from Jane fans because they dont really exist, but you get my point. Homestuck feels like a glorified, expensive, vaguely ornery version of my childhood game. For this specifically, theres nothing wrong with Mallek himself, its moreover how hes treated. While many people inside the Homestuck fandom thought this was an excellent and humorous reward (especially considering they got all the other rewards below it as well) people outside of the comic fandom didn't get the joke and thought it was an example of Hussie being and egomanical jerk. Ill get upset of my own accord. All that being said, and the despite the two months its been since the epilogues first came out, I dont think I have an opinion on them that can be reduced to I liked them or I hated them. what better profession is there in this world? Or you read a lot of Twilight and now you cant escape allure of urban fantasy erotica with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent. And then the monsters came. And then they got in a rocket.. Why dont people who make posts like the original maker of that dig through their own garbage and get on their own case for the stupid stuff they did in the past? I don't really care about homestuck drama, it is a product of its time as another comment said but.. OP seems vastly unaware of a lot of social issues to be "responding" to this drama. Given troll reproduction, it seems to some people as though the only reason they're given them in the comic is to sexualize them for a human audience. Any art of a character on a body pillow has a 90% chance of it being sexual. The story feels like a retelling of the hell-year that was 2020, but Hussie started drafting the story back when everyone was just starting to be stuck inside for the first time. This is silly on a few levels. As of now, recordings of the content exist on YouTube and are embedded where the Flash animations used to be, but take it from me when I say its really not the same. While weve seen characters manipulate time before, Lord Englishs control over all of time in all of its forms is so absolute, his presence in the narrative is already guaranteed. Okay, geez! Theres the aforementioned not-finishing-the-story-ness I talked about earlier. Terezi wanted them to be "L1K3 4 And then there are all the people who cant shroud themselves in secrecy. Meanwhile Roxy, who is heavily implied to be straight is often paired with Jane and Callie. Artist and writer Andrew Hussie is a reluctant father of internet fandom. But Homestuck isn't about fan inclusion for the sake of happy-fun-creating together, it's about WHY we might want to do that and a host of other things. Fuck you. Apparently some things Hussie produced in the past were fairly misogynistic/racist, and there's some debate over what Hussie's current opinions are. Toward the end of the story, Z and her best friend are forced to figure out what to do with the empire that theyve built that has become difficult to control a reality that Hussie himself is familiar with as a de facto leader of a fandom. Reminder to message me @colorfulconstellations if you would like to apply to be a mod! So, you are saying I can't write about people who are not me? The implosion of Silvergate Bank has a lot to do with the fact that it was crypto's bank of choice. Webwho were victoria winters parents. But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. Dirk uses his position as the author to berate characters he doesnt like. This translates into the way Meenahs character is written, being the younger version of HIC shes shown to be the sassy black girl stereotype. Cyberduds. Take later. Unless you believe the existence of these controversies is a matter of opinion, as I'm willing to firmly disagree with you on that matter. And then theres this whole other universe filled with aliens, Trolls, who already played it. The NSFW route, hes a complete douchewad, bullying Lynera and trying to pressure you into drugs and sex. WebBut, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. Umm no. I wrote in second person. yes. Wait, Meenah is black now? We were weirdly concerned with fundamental narrative principles at the time, more so than little kids had any right to be. 2. It's a silly argument but it exists nonetheless. Sure, each panel is a webpage connected by links, but almost every panel only has one link, and thats to the next panel. What am I reading here? In Candy, shes this pushy, horny, clueless woman with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent, who pushes her friends away and pressures Dave in marrying her, preventing him from living out the fact that hes gay. But the Song of Ice and Fire series is twice as long by wordcount, and that's not even finished. Volume 18 comes with a developer warning, showing fully that theyre aware of how fucked up this is. In any case, for Tavros and Terezi, I will discuss separately their problematic treatment both inside the web-comic and in the fandom. The creative director and lead script writer for Hiveswap, literally ships dersecest as stated in his interview. It did, by the way. Hell, a lot of the stuff they accuse the story of, the story itself pokes fun at (such as all the accusations of pedophillia, something that Doc Scratch was openly considered creepy for in-universe) This really just feels like someone who was trying really hard to find bad things to say about the series. Point 1.5: Many of the arguments presented in the document hinge on the idea that inclusion means approval (see Point 1). Mainstream content producers can afford to turn a blind eye to smaller copyright infringements (though they can and do take steps to stop them when they are made aware of them!) Brown, who has worked with survivors of sexual assault as a therapist and social worker, believes that the movie glorifies " predatory behavior." It is problematic in that it presents characters with unlikeable traits in a positive light, problematic in the way it jokes about very serious subjects like abuse and murder, Why didn't you mention that one? (Talking about sniffing Marvus) So, we are kinkshaming now? To me, black is just a color. Many fans were already disappointed with the comics canon ending. Chances are Hussie changed it in part because he wasn't really feeling the joke in the first place. I do. In Meat, the story blasts through at a lightning pace, but the characters we love get thrown into the background as the story concerns itself more and more with Dirk and Calliope. Cohen fucked up when making that "announcement". to clarify my stance im a big homestuck fan im a big fan of toby foxs work im criticizing people who think homestuck is "too problematic" but think toby is "good and clean and safe" hes just as fucked up as the rest of us /pos. Dedicated fans even created a browser extension that notified you the moment new Homestuck content went up. And then they play it. But mainly I was relieved to see the protests happen, because it answered a more fundamental question I had before starting on this story, which was wondering whether the country had any real fight in it., And while the writer says he saw this nation-wide spark as a very positive development, he wondered if this was even a story that needed telling anymore., In the end, he decided it was. If not for the fact they made her into a Jewish stereotype. Hussie saying that Kanaya's lesbianism is considered a fetish in troll society isn't Hussie saying that he considers lesbianism a fetish. Web1. He forces Jake to admit he loves him just to get the satisfaction of embarrassing him and destroying his heart, and he consistently and purposefully misgenders Roxy. They all have the same mother (Grub). What is the cost? 164 Followers. With the source of his partial-paralysis being Vriska, he is tormented by her and others on occasion for his disability. Female trolls having breasts. Leitmotifs will appear again and again in comic in recurring scenarios, creating something more than a callback, but less than full force beat-you-over-the-head-with-it thematic synergy. The counterargument to this is that John, the only character who is 100% confirmed to be canonically straight is very frequently paired with Dave and Karkat. She rapes Jake and then marries him because they had sex. I wouldnt be the snarky, nitpicking college kid with a blog if I didnt start that snarky nitpicking on Reddit and among fans complaining about, say, how retconning [S] Game Over totally ruined the emotional impact of the story up until that point. The "r-slur" being used is true. Example: MLP makes money not only by merchandising but also by ad sales, etc. Obviously, this sort of mockery is considered ableist. At this point in the web-comic, they fix Tavros. I'd never had a Fruit Gusher. Likewise Mindfang's joyous rape-and-murder spree of a memoir is discussed in text (And it's never graphic. He has on multiple occasions, appropriated AAVE while writing her. Homestuck is the full power of the Internet refocused into an artistic and storytelling force the likes and scale of which I havent seen attempted again. About number 12, according to ARquiussprite, they are there for some reason. His use of a wheelchair, for example, is frequently exploited as a weakness to make fun of. What Pumpkin, unlike Hasbro, is not a media giant with multiple branches and properties under its wings; it's a (very) small business with a very direct relationship between items sold and revenue made. (As he puts it, its about the things its about.) The story presents a modern path to revolution in which the catalyst for the overthrow of an imperialist system is not the military strongmen of old, but a young woman with social media savvy. Especially assholes brazen enough to supply your own thoughts to you with a subtle perspective shift from first to second person. We are currently experiencing a system-wide issue with a delay on all activations. Pyscholonials isnt about Andrew Hussie and it isnt a Homestuck sequel. WebKate Mitchell. To beat the game, they have to interact with the game worlds characters, and with a disgruntled group of internet trolls. What is this threat? The result is probably one of the coolest pages in the whole comic, and one of the coolest things Ive seen done in fiction changing nothing but the size and color of the text. But there are uncomfortable aspects to it. I just had no idea until you told me just now. Every single one of those tags appears somewhere in the story, including but not limited to: unhealthy relationships, graphic depictions of violence, transphobia, rape, major character death, and (may God help us all) eggs. A particularly long entry in a book series can get up to 200 thousand words. I didn't find many of the document's arguments compelling, but I also don't find this rebuttle compelling as it focuses very much on reacting more to the person/people writing than any points made. You must have a lot of time on your hands to look into all that, don't you? Post-Scratch Troll society is not presented as good. Or perhaps the second option catches your eye. And then it turns out the game is like a universe reproductive system, with the win state being to make a new universe. In the final act of Homestuck were told the artifact defeats Lord English, and were told he dies after getting sunk in a black hole. Streamers have to become increasingly savvy about the need to defend personal boundaries without provoking the ire of fans. But it's also a prime example of the hidden insolvency that exists across much of the banking sector. An exciting plot is all fine and good, but no one is buying into that if your characters are nothing but paper puppets, acting in any way that moves the plot forward. From a human perspective, she's an unmistakably gay character. And thats about how Ive come to regard all fandoms now.. In my case, that thing I tried to copy when I started out was Homestuck. Media analysis, fiction, and the art of writing the perfect story. This magic carpet ride of analytical post-epilogue Homestuck fan content has left you feeling exhilarated and yet hungry for more. When Homestuck was going through the Trickster Arc in Act 6 Act 5 Act 2, there was a conversation between Jake and Jane just after Jane went into Trickster Mode, and just before Jake went into it. DISH network users facing authentication or login issues. 36.87%. When I was a kid, my brother and I would play a game Ive come to call And Then. Not every country has black stereotypes that are the same. But Homestuck wouldnt be Homestuck if not for Hussies tendency to add more when in doubt, so here we are. Y'know, Homestuck at its core is a comic about being extremely Online [laughs] in a way that I think a lot of things in both the webcomic and the traditional comics base before and even since haven't touched as well. As your cursor (or thumb) toggles feverishly between the two links, a third option beckons. Good job. If so, then there's nothing "wrong" with that, because they had no way of knowing they are related. I think a lot of new authors start out by aping works they admire. And, most problematically, they do so without his consent, waiting until he is asleep to forcibly cut off his legs and replace them with the robolegs. From $23.00 Dance Shirt (White) *LAST CHANCE* Brunetto-4%. What do you think? Point 1: Homestuck is 'problematic' in the way that many people are beginning to dislike. Please enter a valid email and try again. This results in a harsh environment with little regard for things like empathy. It would not be possible because the investment we'd have to make would be significant and the return shaky, because there is such a burgeoning fan market for hand-made horns. Banning from conventions. 1,362,830. Rose and Roxy. I asked Hussie if he thinks everyone should just log off. I mean it is a book, so it technically is porn? Here's a post discussing it. EDIT: I feel as though I should note that aside from controversies 11 and 7, I've attempted to portray these controversies as neutrally as possible (and my only opinion on 7 is that I think the female characters in Homestuck are very well written). No Disney-style moral to repeat to your children. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/UsersCountIndicator.2ab8dda40f822a31d31c_.css.map*/to which I say yes. WebA tale about a boy and his friends and a game they play together. Point 2: Homestuck is INTENTIONALLY challenging. And then, on Earth, sometime in the far future, these immortal snake alien things give birth to another alien who will eventually become the Lord English and he plays the game too. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is the latest product to feel the review bomb burn. but the stance that critical enjoyment is impossible because of those aspects that don't look good today is pretty flawed. Also, others tormented Tavros as well? Homestucks saturation of timeline and narrative chicanery means that there are always multiple versions of each character that exist somewhere in the story, probably even at the same time. Which is a lesson Jake needed to learn in the comic more generally, to be fair, but not while hes an abuse victim. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. (peachy in bright text. WebRead MS Paint Adventures. She is secure in who she is, complete with her disability, without the desire to be fixed or normal. Despite this small, impressive moment, Homestuck is, overall, extremely ableist and disrespectful toward its disabled characters, and real persons with disabilities. When I logged in every post I saw on the issue was complaining about how more people were complaining about people complaining about the Caucasian thing than there were people complaining about the Caucasian thing. Andrew Hussie! Yeah, honestly the content of these docs probably says a lot more about the author of them they they do anything about Andrew Hussie. Its tempting the ask which one is canon and which one isnt: but thinking the answer through makes you realize thats not much of a question at all. Webit has some stuff that aged poorly and is very typical of the comedy and internet culture at the time that it was written. that's all i'm saying. The solid sales performance also lifted the food retailer's profit margins. As underage drinking is a touchy subject for myself personally im not very inclined to go through the route in detail but, underage drinking. TSP problem is a classical problem since 1832 [from wiki]. I'm on the same boat here. #homestuck . The Homestuck Discord exists at https://discord.gg/homestuck if you want to chat with fellow fans. She spends extra time on characters feelings and their conversations with each other, much to the annoyance of Dirk. We did investigate it. Still, Hussie doesnt think every aspect of fandom is completely horrible. Some forms like writing fanfiction or creating fan art are a positive, fun activity. he makes people uncomfortable? Calliope isnt the protagonist to Dirks antagonism, they are equal and opposite forces that corrode the narrative from different directions. Both options ultimately leave someone somewhere dissatisfied. WebPhillip Faraone/Getty Images. A cryptid leader leaves a major vacuum of content, direction, messaging, personal information, all the stuff a frenzied cultist craves. God I cant stand moral guardians like that. They post in the most inappropriate moments, for example, a tragedy happened, and all of a sudden a K-Pop post pops up in the replies not once but many, many times. We really would be here all day if I summarized the story in earnest. Maybe you watched a lot of Naruto, so your big project is filled to the brim with edgy ninjas and impractically sized swords. WebWhy Homestucks Disaster of an Epilogue was so Bad 9,982 views Jul 7, 2019 330 Dislike Share Skooter 58 subscribers Omg I started this April this took me like 3 and a half months sksksskks. According to multiple reports, many users of DISH network services are facing issues during the authentication or login process to the companys platform. Peachy is a better joke anyway (because fruits). So naturally I made a post "complaining" about how there were more people complaining about how there were more people complaining about people complaining about the Caucasian thing than there were people complaining about the Caucasian thing than there were people complaining about people complaining about the Caucasian thing. Thats how obsessive preoccupation works, and its an accelerator of these forms of online cultism. On a scarier note, fans have even gone as far as to find Hussies brothers social media accounts, according to those who posted it. and this is the code I use "Index.blade.php" Some may argue that this forces the comic to be perpetually out of date, but Id argue the opposite. And then theres this game in the mail. Homestuck is the longest and most well-known & loved of the MS Paint Adventures. Attempts to defeat him with conventional weaponry are doomed to fail because he is already here. Still, I think after a bit, writers that stick with it eventually realize these early influences never leave them. Remember how Lanque is trans? And then theres genocide. and i think its mostly to do with homestucks treatment of femininity vs masculinity in a way that is not typically done Cyberduds. Oh yeah also you link to ipgd's post with Cool Dude and Stoner Lou, which, for context, is a direct parody of Shredded Moose--you really need that context to understand CDASL. I saw a lot of promise in Johns relationship with Roxy. But theyre also very upsetting in general. The character's sue like traits and abilities get them through non important bits, but fail them when they need them most. Why didn't you bring it up then? He's an asshole and I can't stand him. Homestuck is two or three biggish novels' worth of illustrated text, Its not that I think people should, its that everyone already knows they should, he said. Theres also the fact that the epilogues have no qualms about crushing aspects of the story the reader may have enjoyed. The back half of the comic focuses on (in the most charitable definition of the word focus) the fight to stop Lord English. Dividend Yield. WebAndrew Hussie (born August 25, 1979) is an American author and artist. If Im Hussie, I use the epilogues to tie up lose ends and put the story to rest, not start this whole other tangent about what canon really means and how all your favorite characters are actually awful people. Yes. Originally the Black Queen of the trolls' incipisphere, after exile to Alternia and took the title of Banished Quasiroyal. The comics before Homestuck, particularly Problem Sleuth, were largely based on community inputs, and I believe certain parts of Homesutck initially were as well (this was before my time). See, I love how I can just type stuff like that and it makes sense still. After that page was posted, people (mostly from Tumblr) started a bit of an uproar, so Hussie retconned that page to say "PEACHY" rather than Caucasian.